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    Default se fac probe cu nds2 sky

    de la niste prieteni de aici din italia am informatii ca sunt in teste cu cardurile nds2 sky.
    au reusit sa le reactiveze cu un programator numit unloper.



    si mai este si un video

    ftp://bruchino.no-ip.info/LooperMagi...lm.__codec.rar

    instalati intai codecul si dupa aia vizionati filmatul

    astept parerile voastre

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    Default softul?

    Dar softul pentru programator de unde se poate descarca?

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    Default Re: se fac probe cu nds2 sky

    Quote Originally Posted by rusudaniion
    de la niste prieteni de aici din italia am informatii ca sunt in teste cu cardurile nds2 sky.
    au reusit sa le reactiveze cu un programator numit unloper.



    si mai este si un video

    ftp://bruchino.no-ip.info/LooperMagi...lm.__codec.rar

    instalati intai codecul si dupa aia vizionati filmatul

    astept parerile voastre
    unde in it si cum arata cartela sky nds2 ca eu sunt interesat si pina acum nu am auzit!daca ne dai o sursa sigura de de unde ai aflat si softul pt. program esti tare :wink

    Ilusion.Clarke-Tech 2100/2500/3100/5100,Ilusion,Vantage,AbIpBox,Unixbox,Doulabs importator ,cas3 ,etc....

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    problema e ca ne trebuie un programator numit unlooper.
    si softul circula doar in grupuri restranse.nu este facut inca public.
    dar chiar daca am avea softul fara unlooper nu putem face nimic.

    o sa revin cu noi informatii.

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    Default Re: se fac probe cu nds2 sky

    Quote Originally Posted by stelrob
    Quote Originally Posted by rusudaniion
    de la niste prieteni de aici din italia am informatii ca sunt in teste cu cardurile nds2 sky.
    au reusit sa le reactiveze cu un programator numit unloper.



    si mai este si un video

    ftp://bruchino.no-ip.info/LooperMagi...lm.__codec.rar

    instalati intai codecul si dupa aia vizionati filmatul

    astept parerile voastre
    unde in it si cum arata cartela sky nds2 ca eu sunt interesat si pina acum nu am auzit!daca ne dai o sursa sigura de de unde ai aflat si softul pt. program esti tare :wink

    in ce sens cum arata cartela de sky in nds2?
    eu m zis ca cineva mia dat acest film si mi-a zis ca in curand va fi inceputul sfarsitului pentru murdock.
    nu am nici macar eu softul pt unlooper dar fii sigur ca o data terminate testele va iesi pe piata.
    din cate am inteles merge numai pe cardurile oiginale dezactivate dar protejate cu blocker.

    mai mult nu potsa iti zic ca nu stiu?ai vazut filmuletu?ti se pare vrajeala?

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    Acum imi dau seama de ce cumpara Fanta in disperare cartele expirate de SKY UK si Italia
    Portocaliule zi-ne si noua ce sti !

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    Default s*y

    problema nu e programatorul ptr ca functioneaza f bine si un infinity usb
    problema e softul folosit ptr deblocare (nota bene : unlooper=scoaterea din bucla adica sic "deblocare" )
    ptr infinity (si nu numai) se poate folosi softul winexplorer ajuns acum la versiunea 5.42 (dar este encriptat - trebuie un keygen produs de un anume dexterlab ) care foloseste niste scripturi denumite unlooper
    bafta la cautat
    cleo

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    nu e numai softul, probabil trebuie un programator care sa lucreze la viteza mai mare (>25MHz) si asa ceva nu poti scoate cu chestiile comune.

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    Default mda

    onyx se poate sa ai dreptate nu pot nici sa afirm nici sa infirm faptul ca trebuie si marita frecventa de functionare a cardului...cine lucreaza cu n#s stie si la cit e quartzul din CA
    oricum la titanium 1 toolul de reparare , care e tot un unlooper sau un glitch se bazeaza pe marirea frecventei de buclare in scopul "agatarii" loaderului OS ; utilitarul de la duolabs foloseste aceeasi chestie in cas2 addon
    chestiile astea exista de mult prin state , canada si australia si se foloseau si la "moscuirea" anumitor carduri
    vezi aici :
    "WHAT IS AN UNLOOPER and is it DIFFERENT
    from an ISO-7816 PROGRAMMER

    The short answer to this question, which I have been asked many times is NO, they are NOT DIFFERENT. THEY BOTH DO THE EXACT SAME JOB, but the Unlooper does more and for about the same cost.

    In short an UNLOOPER is a misnomer that some DirecTV® sites use to get a bigger price for what is actually a ISO-7816 glitching PROGRAMMER with some added features in programmability. The most important of those functions is that an unlooper is also an Atmel programmer for Atmel AT90S2313 chips. Built in, is this extra function as well as the function to “glitch” and be programmed easily to write and read any smartcard in existence so long as it follows the ISO-7816 for specification.

    But WHY do you want this function. Well that is simple and it is what makes this device so desirable. The Unlooper itself contains this Atmel chip as its intelligent micro-controller. It is a small microprocessor that adds additional functions to this programmer and makes it programmable as to the functions programmed on the Atmel. Available free over the Internet are several FLASH programs that can program this device to do many various functions in addition to programming ordinary smart cards. In fact many of the smart cards that people are interested in have various different PROTOCOLS or features requiring this ability. And many of them actually work differently from others. ISO-7816 is a basic standard for smart cards but there are several different PROTOCOLS within the standard and you would need a whole BUNCH of different programmers to program all the various types. Some ISO-7816 cards are ROM based, some are Flash and ROM based and others contain micro-controllers and variations of Flash and ROM memory. There are hundreds if not thousands of different types with many resources for these devices on the net at different locations. Today even such mainstream vendors such as TOSHIBA sell them and you can see several vendors on this site as well as here. There is also much information here on the various uses of Smart Card programmers of all types and links to various sites that show other uses. It is estimated that within 5 years people will have 5 smartcards in their wallet for credit cards, medical cards that contain your entire medical records, smart card driving licenses that hold your driving record, infrctions, what points you have lost as well as smart card for frequent flyer points and department store bonus points as well as other uses. Smart cards will be the biggest changeover for key security, password readers and of course computer security which is already in place now. A smart card with additional fingerprint or retina reader is the future of top security in both government and private industry. And everyone will have several of these readers which will be more common than scotch tape dispensers. UNLOOPERS are just programmable ISO-7816 reader/writers, nothing more.

    What all this means is that an Unlooper is really nothing more than a PROGRAMMABLE PROGRAMMER and it is trivial for YOU to write a flash that will allow the device to be used with various smart cards that an ordinary programmer will not read or program. Even the HU-Card that DirecTV® use requires a glitching device (which an Unlooper has) to read it to discover its security aspects. This REVERSE ENGINEERING is not illegal at all. Ordinary programmers were not able to do this earlier. So if you wanted to have a look at the HU Card (not to steal but to see how their card was formatted) then you need a so called Unlooper to do so. Flash programs are available free all over the Internet that would allow you to write to these Atmels, read them and even repair them. There is also a flash that will program the code needed for what are called boot loaders, really nothing more than boards that will allow the use of a damaged DSS card in an ordinary receiver. If they are NOT used to illegally steal or obtain programming, these can be perfectly legal devices and cannot on their own receive or decode any DirecTV® signal. They simply allow a damaged card to work. Unfortunately DirecTV® themselves tell some lawyers that these are ONLY for the purpose of stealing their signal but that is not true of the BootStrap (really a Dead Processor Boot Board) or and especially what is often called an unlooper but is just a more sophisticated programmer.

    DSS people often ONLY called them unloopers to get a slightly higher price for them and to differenciate a programmable reader/writer from a non programmable one and because there is NO difference at all between what may be described as an UNLOOPER on some invoices and a modern PROGRAMMER of the more flexible type that could program a DirecTV® HU Card, or read that. They are called two different names but in fact most of these are shipped WITHOUT a flash and thus are IDENTICAL and you can apply a flash that will make it unloop damaged cards or with a flash to program smart cards or even a flash to program Atmels inserted in a boot loader or ANY OTHER DEVICE at all that uses the Atmel AT90S2313. In fact most people know that this is a very desirable device (an Unlooper) because it can be programmed to read and write any smart card on the market, glitch over defects that may appear from time to time in most micropressor based smart cards and can even program an Atmel AT90S2313 or program itself. And this all for a few dollars more than a ordinary non-programmable ISO-7816 reader/writer which is not programmable and cannot program all smart cards, especially security cards.

    Anyone who did not purchase an “ISO-7816 Unlooper” in lieu of a “ISO-7816 programmer” simply did not do their homework and got the inferior device. Anyone in the know purchased an ISO-7816 UNLOOPER instead which is just a more flexable programmer that is itself programmable to do many jobs.

    When DirecTV® tell a lawyer that these devices are ONLY useful for programming their Access Cards, the simple way to re**** this (which is a bit of trouble) is to talk to a University professor or teacher in Smart Card technology. All major universities have smart card courses these days. Show him how this works and be sure to bring a diskette full of FLASHES which are available all over the Internet, free. These will usually contain FLASHES to program many different devices as well as information on how to write your own flash. Some don't but that information is often available in various FAQ's.

    But it is totally FOOLISH and dishonest to state that “theft” is the only use when its probably one of the least common uses of these devices. After all, even REAL “pirates“ will usually only have one harmed smart card and would ususally send this to some dealer who unloops them for as little as $10.00 to repair. People would NOT buy a specific device to unloop their one smart card and people usually buy these because they are much more flexible and more useful than a programmer only which typically sells for virtually the same price or possibly $10.00 less. Most people will note that many vendors do not even offer ISO-7816 programmers any more and offer ONLY ISO-7816 unloopers for a few dollars more, since they are actually the same device with a different FLASH, which is free.

    Many people who have asked me about this are beginners at smart card programming or just learning as most experienced people are aware of these uses. These devices CAN be used “illegally“ as can a kitchen carving knife but enormous numbers of people use these for perfectly lawful purpose. In fact these cannot be used illegally without a specific PROGRAMS that would allow you to write an “activate” program on a DirecTV® Satellite card and have a DirecTV® system. Because DirecTV® send out letters that accuse people of stealing simply because they purchase one of these devices, I would recommend that anyone buying one of these NOT USE a DirecTV® satellite system to avoid this trouble. You cannot steal their signal if you do not have their system. So if you have a Satellite system make sure its a DISH NETWORK system or do not have any satellite system at all. But be aware that buying a DirecTV® system, if you have purchased one of these devices can lead to LEGAL problems, threatening lawyers letters and other hassles.

    People should also know that if they type ISO-7816 UNLOOPER or ISO-7816 PROGRAMMER into the “google“ or any major SEARCH ENGINE, when they are looking to purchase one of these, it will point you to many DSS sites for these products almost exclusively. So it is perfectly NORMAL that a potential buyer would be buying one of these from a DSS site. That is who carries them, period.

    So people who did buy these should NOT be intimidated by the DTV threatening letter and should simply contact their lawyer about it. If you need a experienced lawyer who has dealt with this foolishness before look here.

    For info on may kinds of programmers and the use of smartcards and programers :

    http://www.legal-rights.org/sc-programmers.html"

    preluat de pe http://www.legal-rights.org/DTV/unlooper.html
    cleo

 

 

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