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    Post DremBox users: IMPORTANT MESSAGE FROM THE IHAD/Gemini Team


    AN IMPORTANT MESSAGE FROM THE IHAD/Gemini Team
    With the release of the GP 4.3, we have added a feature to the Blue panel to detect fake Dreambox clones. We want to show our protest against clones and replicas of Dreamboxes. It cannot be in our interest, to allow the fake boxes to hard the big dreambox community and in fact our beloved hobby.
    Like some of you should know, some weeks ago a new box came to the market. It’s sold as a completely new development.
    But if you check that box exactly, you will soon find out that not only the same images, software and drivers were used, but also the nearly identical hardware, such as for example in the Dreambox DM500. According to some owners of this new box, it is being shipped and sold with a preinstalled Gemini Image, which is not in our interest. Even in the manufacturers forum, Gemini images where posted with a warning “runs only on Box XYZ”.

    We as a Dreambox board and Developer of the Gemini Images can’t tolerate this trend. It is not in our interest that our know-how, our knowledge of the Dreamboxes, and our time is used by a third party manufactorer to sell his copies with our software

    In fact, the truth is that these manufactorers are themselves not able to provide a self developed image for their receivers.

    The Blue Panel server is operated, managed and financed by private funds. Also the support we offer for the Gemini images and the genuine Dreamboxes is exploited by the fake clone developers and owners.

    We can not prevent these people from using the Gemini images, but what we can do is making it as hard as possible for these people to gain money with our work. Therefore, we implemented in the images that are also running on the boxes described above a lock for the BluePanel server. The detection mechanism, whether it is a replica or a Dreambox, has been activated in the current DM500 release. Other Box types will follow. If a box is identified as a non-genuine clone of a Dreambox, the access to the BluePanel is locked.
    Since this method of detection is still very new, it could unfortunately occur that even genuine boxes are identified as fakes and as a consequence the BluePanel would be locked also on original Dreamboxes. In the meantime, there are some known problems where repaired boxes can’t by recognized as genuine due to the replaced hardware parts. We will do everything the reduce the number of false identifications but nevertheless we cannot decrease the error rate to zero, as the necessary data from DMM is not available. If your Box is falsely identified as a fake box, please understand that we do this in order to maintain the Dreambox community.

    We ask all users of our images to do everything possible to ensure that our hobby can live on and we will fight together against such unfair methods. We as developers want our Gemini images only to run on Dreamboxes...

    The IHAD/Gemini Team

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    they should start with the MAC address of the nic since most clones are well... having cloned MAC addresses.

    hmmmm.... it's sounds like metabox/dreamsoft fiasco all over again hehehehe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by boknoy_ph View Post
    they should start with the MAC address of the nic since most clones are well... having cloned MAC addresses.

    hmmmm.... it's sounds like metabox/dreamsoft fiasco all over again hehehehe.
    Nice idea BTW do you own any clone Dreamboxes?I request my friends George,Bangalore and Alan to use the latest GP 4.3 and show your support

    What is the mechanism to find whether it is a clone or not? Just reading the chipset will give those details? What will happen to clones if GP 4.3 is installed?

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    This is message:
    It's not a Dream. It's a Nightmare

    The Gemini is developed only for
    Dreambox
    BluePanel is locked

    BluePanel not work on any clones of dreambox with this images

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    Quote Originally Posted by dreamboy70 View Post
    AN IMPORTANT MESSAGE FROM THE IHAD/Gemini Team
    With the release of the GP 4.3, we have added a feature to the Blue panel to detect fake Dreambox clones. We want to show our protest against clones and replicas of Dreamboxes. It cannot be in our interest, to allow the fake boxes to hard the big dreambox community and in fact our beloved hobby.
    Like some of you should know, some weeks ago a new box came to the market. It’s sold as a completely new development.
    But if you check that box exactly, you will soon find out that not only the same images, software and drivers were used, but also the nearly identical hardware, such as for example in the Dreambox DM500. According to some owners of this new box, it is being shipped and sold with a preinstalled Gemini Image, which is not in our interest. Even in the manufacturers forum, Gemini images where posted with a warning “runs only on Box XYZ”.

    We as a Dreambox board and Developer of the Gemini Images can’t tolerate this trend. It is not in our interest that our know-how, our knowledge of the Dreamboxes, and our time is used by a third party manufactorer to sell his copies with our software

    In fact, the truth is that these manufactorers are themselves not able to provide a self developed image for their receivers.

    The Blue Panel server is operated, managed and financed by private funds. Also the support we offer for the Gemini images and the genuine Dreamboxes is exploited by the fake clone developers and owners.

    We can not prevent these people from using the Gemini images, but what we can do is making it as hard as possible for these people to gain money with our work. Therefore, we implemented in the images that are also running on the boxes described above a lock for the BluePanel server. The detection mechanism, whether it is a replica or a Dreambox, has been activated in the current DM500 release. Other Box types will follow. If a box is identified as a non-genuine clone of a Dreambox, the access to the BluePanel is locked.
    Since this method of detection is still very new, it could unfortunately occur that even genuine boxes are identified as fakes and as a consequence the BluePanel would be locked also on original Dreamboxes. In the meantime, there are some known problems where repaired boxes can’t by recognized as genuine due to the replaced hardware parts. We will do everything the reduce the number of false identifications but nevertheless we cannot decrease the error rate to zero, as the necessary data from DMM is not available. If your Box is falsely identified as a fake box, please understand that we do this in order to maintain the Dreambox community.

    We ask all users of our images to do everything possible to ensure that our hobby can live on and we will fight together against such unfair methods. We as developers want our Gemini images only to run on Dreamboxes...

    The IHAD/Gemini Team
    hahaha! is it very hard to find which one is clone or original?

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    opps... DVBKEY

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    if you change the MAC i think its possible to use the blue pannel..

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    Mesage for cloned and fake products :


 

 

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