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best system ? patthai (( page 3 my posting )
Freesat… is the next big thing
The BBC and ITV bring you freesat, a brand new digital satellite TV service offering free HD TV programming at no extra cost. freesat has no monthly subscription, just a one-off payment for the digital box, satellite dish and installation - so you pay once, and watch forever. And because freesat is broadcast via satellite, it'll be available to almost every household in the UK when it launches in Spring 08.
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Watch & record HDTV on a PC.
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let's hope this is true, it will be bad news for I2E as you see allready by his respons , but never mind afther some time when they also change to pay tv ( as many) i am sure you can buy an official card with I2E from the breaking lab, but only thing what you will break is your wallet again.....
Nobody has to buy pay cards from me. They can always ask Truevisions or DSTV and get their own pay cards if they want.
So Pathai do you think it will be free to pay for enough broadband to stream from the UK to where you are?
Not available even in the UK at present? Strictly speaking 'no', but the better question is: 'What will be available free when this is up and running that isn't there now?' As far as I can see the answer is HD versions of some of the current FTA channels but nothing else. Freesat is a joint venture between the BBC and ITV. It will include (a) FTA channels like the BBC bouquet that are presently available on 28E (b) the 100 or so other 'free' channels available on the Sky platform subject to having a basic card obtainable for a one-off payment (e.g. ITV and Tiny Pop bouquets) and (c) channels transmitted on the terrestial digital 'Freeview' platform. Freesat has more technical potential than Freeview because the much greater bandwidth makes HD channels viable. However a number of current Freeview channels may not be easily moved to Freesat, either because of (i) licensing issues that mean they cannot be beamed beyond the UK or (b) because Sky has offered them on a discretionary basis (e.g. Sky Sports News) but currently encrypts satellite versions. At present it even looks like Freesat will use the same programme guide software as Sky and go out on the same satellite. So if you currently have a Sky box with basic card (not a subscription) plus Freeview as well, it looks like you are getting more channels (except HD) than you will receive on Freesat, as least under the current plan. I'd like to be wrong on this!
No channels ... Ridiculous nionsense . Seen them myself and everyone with a cheap sat receiver and 60cm dish in the area mentioned can also tune to them at this very moment !
Clearly you are not familiar with the UK sat scene ! Everyone single one of the sd channels (other than Channel 4 which breaks free of NDS encryption in the next few months) is listed in Lyngsat at 28 degrees under Eurobird + Astro 2, as fta AND IS CURRENTLY FREE AND OPERATING !
No my friend you are attacking the wrong problem ...the Freesat channels are there now ,only the EPG and HD channels await the official launch ..the problem is getting the channels in Asia . Read about "tv hotels" in Satfacts...that may be the solution in the future for many people without the right UK contacts.
[Go to www.wotsat.com for all UK sat info ]
Read the December issue of What Satellite and you will get the ACCURATE info
Most channels already operating ( Eurobird+Astro 2 ) ...watched them all Summer !
Getting them to ones computer in Asia....thats the difficult part !
Upload Speed insufficient ? ...again you are unfamiliar with UK market !
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Poor old C-band, still believes in "spin doctors'' then admits he also reads "sadfacts"
sorry there was a typo there I really meant "satfacts" and we all know the history of that rag, Then he admits to reading "wot sat" it just goes from worse to terrible,
No doubt the item in wotsat was written to order by the advertisers.
So after a little investigative reading it turns out that your 200 channels are now reduced to 80, there's no HD being broadcast yet, and it's all advertising spin anyway. as everything's already playing [except the HD, lets not forget everything being repeated in HD] somewhere else.
It might just be time to feed the fairy's at the bottom of your garden C-band.
But tell us, did your good mate pop round and fix up your non-working Chinese dish YET. You know the one, your own personal expert, the ex- CS man, who guarantees everything to work 10000% except your dish of cause. Still not to worry, you can always turn it into a fish pond, few plants and a few rocks it should look quite nice,
regards from OZ bassett
Yes friends Freesat is WONDERFUL l news ...just think 200 fta English channels . Right now most are available but next month when the service officially starts we get an EPG
WITH UP TO A WEEKS ADVANCE PROGRAMMING as well as two HD channels .
[QUOTE=irdeto2engineer;476736]Cband there is a big difference between UP TO 2.5mb upload and dedicated garaunteed fibre speeds....
Correct... not underestimating the difficulties of getting these 200 channels from the UK to our pc's and tv screens in Asia....we will need the skills and expertise of people like IR2 to do this as he already has a set up for accessing channels and progs from all over the world via his HAVA as his numerous screenshots prove..
As IR2 has rightly pointed out several have tried to get Sky Digital in Asia using a Slingbox and few have suceeded...the key is a powerful uplink which few have .
Once they succeed and using the Pinnacle with its non software controlled downlink block the sky's the limit both commerrcially and entertainment wise .AND REMEMBER these are FTA channels so criminal PIRACY issues are no longer there.( civil issues a different matter)
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