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    Hope we can start the new thread about NAGRA.But just remember it's Educational Purpose Only.


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    you can ask Kudelski.
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    kudelski is one of the world's leading suppliers of integrated security software solutions for digital television operators and content providers w/c is nagravision.

    do you really think Kudelski will agree to your ideas about hacking Nagra keys? uh erh
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    NAGRA is not so easy as BISS. Thats why we didn't discussed it here in deep. Even I started a thread some time ago about RAJ TV Nagra keys. But I got same response as now you are getting from so called "Seniors".

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    Goto USA sat board, they have lots of info regarding nagra(unlocking, rom etc)! The spaniards hobbyist have lots of discussions about nagra also!
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    Thanks khan2ton. I will surely have a look on USA Sat board.

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    WHAT IS NAGRAVISION

    what is nagravision

    'Nagravision is a company of the Kudelski Group that develops conditional access systems for cable and satellite television. The name is also used for their main products, the Nagravision encryption systems.

    Digital systems

    Three versions of Nagravision are in common use for digital satellite television, known as Nagravision, Nagravision A, and Nagravision Aladin. Nagravision A and Aladin are often confused with each other. Nagravision Aladin is however, a complicated combination of Nagravision A and Mediaguard SECA 2 encryption.

    The decryption unit is either integrated into a receiver, available as a conditional access module (CAM), or as one of many encryption schemes supported on a CAM emulator.

    Nagravision has been adopted all over the world as a conditional access system, with providers like NTL UK and Dream Satellite TV Philippines (on Nagravision 1),and Digital+ Spain, TV Cabo Portugal, Premiere Germany, Digi TV Romania, BellExpressVu Canada and Dish Network USA (On Nagravision A). Digital+ remains the only provider using Nagravision Aladin (And also Nagravision A) after its adoption in March 2005. Despite several security flaws, algorithm changes and revisions have kept the Nagravision A system generally secure, although the common encryption game of "cat and mouse" between the conditional access providers and hackers has developed. The original Nagravision 1 is now almost obsolete after it was originally compromised in 2002, although Dream Satellite maintain relative security by changing keys several times throughout the day, causing great inconvenience to unauthorised viewers.

    A n a l o g system

    An older Nagravision system for scrambling analog satellite television programmes was used in the 1990s, for example by the German pay-TV broadcaster Premiere. In this line-shuffling system, 32 lines of the PAL TV signal are temporarily stored in both the encoder and decoder, and read out in permuted order under the control of a pseudorandom number generator. A smartcard security microcontroller (in a key-shaped package) decrypts data that is transmitted during the blanking intervals of the TV signal and extracts the random seed value needed for controlling the random number generation. The system also permitted the audio signal to be scrambled by inverting its ******** at 12.5 kHz using a frequency mixer.

    Like with most smartcard-based conditional access systems, the smartcards used with the analog Nagravision system were repeatedly reverse engineered by hackers, which allowed the production of clone cards and "patched" receivers. However, the ****og Nagravision system was the first widely used cryptographically controlled conditional access system that was broken in a way that bypassed the tamper resistance of its smartcard entirely and from which no recovery was possibly by replacing all smartcards. The weakness exploited by this attack is the random seed value that is used to control the descrambling process. It is only 15 bits long and by the late 1990s, even low-cost home computers with frame grabbers were computationally powerful enough to try all 215 = 32768 possible permutations of video lines for each frame in real time. Software decoders were written that selected of this small number of possible permutations the one that maximized the similarity of neighboring image lines in the resulting image and displayed the result. The scrambling of the audio signal was not a cryptographically controlled process and can easily be undone using the same frequency mixer circuit used for scrambling.'

    All right everyone this is the last of the encryption definitions posts and hope it will benefit many people on wanting to learn what these encryptions mean and their purpose as a whole
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    Quote Originally Posted by anishpsla View Post
    Thank you Yan naing. There is any way to find the working keys ? as one used in Dream TV.
    as for as i know u cannot do anything with DM! but u can do with correct CARD READER and ORIGINAL CARD and also with CORRECT THIRD PARTY SOFTWARE!

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    and what evidence do you suggest that you can do all that?

    kudelski doesn't just buy a card reader in an elex shops to developed nagravision. they spend alot of time and money to developed this software security.

    but you on-the-other-hand, someone must've admired your enthusiasm and think that is easy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by anishpsla View Post
    I know its not so easy friend. If you have any idea about it. Please share it here.
    don't waste ur time....actually real hackers only know the complete details but they won't share anything in public forum!

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    Quote Originally Posted by anishpsla View Post
    I know its not so easy friend. If you have any idea about it. Please share it here.
    start with duwgati.com then register at hasshu.com since they mostly tackle nagra encryptions. learn how to log EMM's. learn how to program.... it's not as easy as listening to a stream and then the keys will be shown to you like golden egg in a platter. jmp understands how ECM's work, he mostly does the crunching on DreamTV rom10's when it happens.

    one way would be to be an official subscriber, open your card, examine the contents and learn from it. be warned though, cost of hardware and subsequent loss of materials (damaged sub card, etc) can be high.... so be prepared.
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    actually.. you can always get the active keys in your original subscribed card even this is expired or not loaded.
    the only thing why you got scrambled when your subscription expired is that i.r.d. status is de activated in the card as well as the program right but the keys are always updated and these are posted during ecm when no other means of systems to get keys.
    all you need to read an original card is a card unlocker and card programmer

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    Quote Originally Posted by anishpsla View Post
    Thnks for the advice Mr.boknoy_ph and Mr. fsales . Can I use phonix interface for log Nagra EMM's . Any software for it ?

    And one more thing Mr.boknoy_ph I am not a fool to open a subscription card. As one of the actor said in a malayalam movie " I know every thing because I am studied in Polytechnic ". So don't try to fool me.

    well i can no longer elaborate some specs coz you studied in polythenic and i am not fooling you my friend

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    ok then, do not be fooled. fsales made a fool out of me when i let him open and thus modified my legit sub card and the rewards are great, lol.

    anyway, if you want to ask HOW to open it, i don't think fsales or anyone from the Filipino members will assist and make a fool out of you too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by boknoy_ph View Post
    ok then, do not be fooled. fsales made a fool out of me when i let him open and thus modified my legit sub card and the rewards are great, lol.

    anyway, if you want to ask HOW to open it, i don't think fsales or anyone from the Filipino members will assist and make a fool out of you too.
    I've some Filipino friends but the worst thing is mostly they talk their own language in every forums.I can't learn their great technique and feel it's very bad for me.
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