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    Default Not Only Pay Servers And Free Servers !!


    The Rule Applied Reminds Me Of George Bush....you Are Either A Good Guy Or A Bad Guy. Life Is Never So Simple So Let Me Raise The Third Option.
    What About Those Who Wish To Share Costs ...ie Completely And Totally Sharing ..on a Non Profitmaking Basis ?
    How would that be done ?
    Three People Get Together ( via RDI if they want ) And Share The Cost Of A Card .
    Surely Such Selfless Helpful Behaviour Cannot Be Disallowed ?
    It Is True Sharing.....but With Payment Made To Cover The Cost Of The Card Electricity Server Etc.
    Rdi'ers Views Appreciated please.

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    I'm sure plenty of people are doing that already they just don't post about it.
    If Evolution works, why so many idiots?


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    That can easily be done on PM because
    the three dont have to advertise themselves.
    What else do they need others for?

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    Quote Originally Posted by C-BAND View Post
    What About Those Who Wish To Share Costs ...ie Completely And Totally Sharing ..on a Non Profitmaking Basis ?
    How would that be done ?
    That's called communism,

    Quote Originally Posted by C-BAND View Post
    Three People Get Together And Share The Cost Of A Card .
    Surely Such Selfless Helpful Behaviour Cannot Be Disallowed ?
    Yes it can, your still circumventing an encryption for gain, the gain does not have to have a monitory value.

    Quote Originally Posted by C-BAND View Post
    It Is True Sharing.....but With Payment Made To Cover The Cost Of The Card Electricity Server Etc.
    Rdi'ers Views Appreciated please.
    The crunch comes when you get caught, As one person will be charged with running a card share operation, and the others just with subscribing to a card share operation.

    Please consider the following,, You have a perfectly legal pay subscription, you contact the service provider and request another receiver / card for use in another room. You then pass the new receiver over the fence to your neighbour, and you split the total subscription price two ways. is it stealing.
    The answer is yes, simply because you have allowed the receiver you hire to go beond the confines of your home.
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    even sharing your legal subscription for the mere fact that you only want to lessen your "subscription fee" to that certain package is also illegal.

    also the same thing in *F* package shared using only an RF splitter w/in building flat premises is also illegal.

    surely, a service provider wont agree on both of these types of sharing
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    Quote Originally Posted by bassett View Post
    That's called communism,

    Please consider the following,, You have a perfectly legal pay subscription, you contact the service provider and request another receiver / card for use in another room. You then pass the new receiver over the fence to your neighbour, and you split the total subscription price two ways. is it stealing.
    The answer is yes, simply because you have allowed the receiver you hire to go beond the confines of your home.

    hmmm
    i dont think so
    you have also 2-3 Tv ore Telephons and you pay only 1Line ore 1 Conzession for Watch TV its also Legal in the another room so why not also for Pay TV in the another room
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daeng View Post
    hmmm
    i dont think so
    you have also 2-3 Tv ore Telephons and you pay only 1Line ore 1 Conzession for Watch TV its also Legal in the another room so why not also for Pay TV in the another room
    It's quite simply the user of the 2nd receiver does not pay a valid subscription. Where-as you as the subscriber do pay a subscription.

    There is a guy up this way, who has multiple pay receivers in his home, something like 8 or 10, he pays a fee for all the additional equipment, Is he breaking the laws by having a receiver in each room of his home. Plainly no, But if he hires a receiver and gives it to me to use, then Yes it is illegal, as I'm not the hirer, and don't hold a valid subscription.

    Who am I talking about,, well you might have heard of Russel Crowe
    regards from OZ bassett

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daeng View Post
    hmmm
    i dont think so
    you have also 2-3 Tv ore Telephons and you pay only 1Line ore 1 Conzession for Watch TV its also Legal in the another room so why not also for Pay TV in the another room
    Yes we pay only for one line but we need to anyway pay for the amount of calls we have made. 2 or 3 or 10 all the calls made from the same line are charged. But Pay tvs are charged on monthly basis and they won't reduce if we viewed that channel only for a minute for the whole month nor they are going to increase if you see it 24/7.

    @Cband
    The Agreement Between The Pay Tv Provider And The Customers Are Clearly Written. Customers Don't Have The Right To Resell Or Hire.

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    Default Middle Of The Road Card Sharing

    FRIENDS FRIENDS THANKS FOR ALL YOUR INTERESTING REPLIES BUT THIS WAS NOT A QUESTION ABOUT THE LEGALITIES.

    MUCH OF WHAT IS WRITTEN ON THIS FORUM BREAKS LAWS IN CERTAIN COUNTRIES. AUSTRALIA AS WE ALL KNOW HAS THE TOUGHEST RULES...ALMOST EVERYTHINg IS BANNED AND ILLEGAL AS BASSETT WILL CONFIRM.

    OTHER COUNTRIES MAINLY IN EUROPE TAKE A SOFTER APPROACH AND ALLOW SHARING WITHOUT MONETARY GAIN . THE THIRD GROUP INCLUDING CAMBODIA AND MANY UNDERDEVELOPED COUNTRIES HAS NO LAWS WHATSOEVER ABOUT CARD SHARING.
    NO , FRIENDS MY QUESTION CONCERNED THE RDI RULES NOT THE LAWS !

    RDI WILL NOT PERMIT PAID SHARING BUT PERMITS FREE SHARING.AND I WAS JUST RAISING THE ISSUE OF RDI ALLOWING THEIR MEMBERS TO POST ABOUT TRUE NON PROFIT MAKING SHARING SCHEMES NAMELY MONEY CHANGING HANDS BETWEEN MEMBERS BUT WITHOUT ANY PROFIT MAKING....JUST COST SHARING ....WHICH PRESENTLY, AND IN MY VIEW SADLY, APPEARS TO BE BANNJED ON THIS FORUM .
    WHAT DO OTHERS THINK ?
    SHOULD THIS NO PROFIT MAKING SHARING BE ALLOWED WHERE MODEST AMOUNTS OF MONEY INDEED CHANGES HANDS ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by C-BAND View Post
    FRIENDS FRIENDS THANKS FOR ALL YOUR INTERESTING REPLIES BUT THIS WAS NOT A QUESTION ABOUT THE LEGALITIES.

    MUCH OF WHAT IS WRITTEN ON THIS FORUM BREAKS LAWS IN CERTAIN COUNTRIES. AUSTRALIA AS WE ALL KNOW HAS THE TOUGHEST RULES...ALMOST EVERYTHINg IS BANNED AND ILLEGAL AS BASSETT WILL CONFIRM.

    OTHER COUNTRIES MAINLY IN EUROPE TAKE A SOFTER APPROACH AND ALLOW SHARING WITHOUT MONETARY GAIN . THE THIRD GROUP INCLUDING CAMBODIA AND MANY UNDERDEVELOPED COUNTRIES HAS NO LAWS WHATSOEVER ABOUT CARD SHARING.
    NO , FRIENDS MY QUESTION CONCERNED THE RDI RULES NOT THE LAWS !

    RDI WILL NOT PERMIT PAID SHARING BUT PERMITS FREE SHARING.AND I WAS JUST RAISING THE ISSUE OF RDI ALLOWING THEIR MEMBERS TO POST ABOUT TRUE NON PROFIT MAKING SHARING SCHEMES NAMELY MONEY CHANGING HANDS BETWEEN MEMBERS BUT WITHOUT ANY PROFIT MAKING....JUST COST SHARING ....WHICH PRESENTLY, AND IN MY VIEW SADLY, APPEARS TO BE BANNJED ON THIS FORUM .
    WHAT DO OTHERS THINK ?
    SHOULD THIS NO PROFIT MAKING SHARING BE ALLOWED WHERE MODEST AMOUNTS OF MONEY INDEED CHANGES HANDS ?


    I think , you have said it really well. Most of us are here to see how to get more packages and free servers, we all know that most people by doing this are breaking the law or rules set by providers.

    On a different note, I think the idea by CBAND is interesting and one that could be considered. If its allowed on the forum, we could probably have a forum section, where people could just as for each other who are interested in a particular package, find two or more to share and buy a card. Its pretty much the same, as for sharing is considered.

    Yes, the guy who buys it from the provider, has a bigger risk factor, but then again he has the card on his machine and the rest of them are at his mercy.

    My 2cents.

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    Why do you insist on using CAPITALS for all your posts, it's only considered very rude, as it signifies your shouting, but it's also the hight of arrogance, and you Sir have nothing to be arrogant about.



    Quote Originally Posted by C-BAND View Post
    FRIENDS FRIENDS THANKS FOR ALL YOUR INTERESTING REPLIES BUT THIS WAS NOT A QUESTION ABOUT THE LEGALITIES.

    MUCH OF WHAT IS WRITTEN ON THIS FORUM BREAKS LAWS IN CERTAIN COUNTRIES. AUSTRALIA AS WE ALL KNOW HAS THE TOUGHEST RULES...ALMOST EVERYTHINg IS BANNED AND ILLEGAL AS BASSETT WILL CONFIRM.
    Not quite correct, anywhere that has a Sky based pay subscription system is tight with it's hacking polices. The UK system [BskyB] and the New Zealand, system are good examples
    You get away with in Thailand, simply because your country is total corrupt anyway. And bribery and corruption are a way of life, and the way you do business. also you have no pay service, that is based in Thailand. therefore the pay providers have nothing to loose.

    Quote Originally Posted by C-BAND View Post
    OTHER COUNTRIES MAINLY IN EUROPE TAKE A SOFTER APPROACH AND ALLOW SHARING WITHOUT MONETARY GAIN .
    Total and absolute rubbish, no where in the world allows hacking, if they did there would be no need to pay very expensive fee's for encryption services.

    Quote Originally Posted by C-BAND View Post
    THE THIRD GROUP INCLUDING CAMBODIA AND MANY UNDERDEVELOPED COUNTRIES HAS NO LAWS WHATSOEVER ABOUT CARD SHARING.
    NO , FRIENDS MY QUESTION CONCERNED THE RDI RULES NOT THE LAWS !
    Why do you think the RDI admin, will not allow Rumanian plain keys to be posted
    And you forgot to add Thailand to the list of countries without laws.

    Quote Originally Posted by C-BAND View Post
    RDI WILL NOT PERMIT PAID SHARING BUT PERMITS FREE SHARING.AND I WAS JUST RAISING THE ISSUE OF RDI ALLOWING THEIR MEMBERS TO POST ABOUT TRUE NON PROFIT MAKING SHARING SCHEMES NAMELY MONEY CHANGING HANDS BETWEEN MEMBERS BUT WITHOUT ANY PROFIT MAKING....JUST COST SHARING ....WHICH PRESENTLY, AND IN MY VIEW SADLY, APPEARS TO BE BANNJED ON THIS FORUM .
    WHAT DO OTHERS THINK ?
    SHOULD THIS NO PROFIT MAKING SHARING BE ALLOWED WHERE MODEST AMOUNTS OF MONEY INDEED CHANGES HANDS ?
    The question of advertising Card share is quite simply and has been explained to you before, but you simply don't get it. Pay providers monitor these forums, it's part of the business of running a pay service.
    If a forum, any forum started openly promoting card share, [payed or otherwise] the pay companies that where connected would simply lodge an application with the ISP, that the promoting site was connected to, and simply cancel there contract for the site. Put simply they would, could and do, shut the site down.
    Years ago, before you became an expert, we had sites that specifically catered for Plain Keys .Those sites are long gone. Why do you think that is.

    Really it might be an idea if you where to read the forum rules on the subject, which indecently are non-negotiable,
    I'm sure that someone like "Fanta" would be only too pleased to correct you, should you make an error in your judgements. And if you don't like the way the rules are written, may I suggest you find another forum that is more expectable to your needs,
    All your posts seem to be highly antagonistic, and very confrontational for some reason only you know. I really don't know what your trying to prove, to yourself, but your attitude towards authority on forums has got you banned before, one would have thought you have learned your lesson. Apparently not.
    regards from OZ bassett

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    Quote Originally Posted by srskiller View Post
    I think , you have said it really well. Most of us are here to see how to get more packages and free servers, we all know that most people by doing this are breaking the law or rules set by providers.
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    I would suggest sir, that your only speaking for yourself and not representative of the majority of subscribers on here. It's quite plain that your here simply for the free handouts that you think [wrongly] are available
    A while ago, this forum was very good and helpful to people in the hobby, as most of the old hands will attest to, Now it would seem that it's attracted "free" loaders and people who only want to steal services. and continually hold there hands out to be "Spoon fed"
    This is not what the satellite TV hobby is all about. years ago, we all helped people who where having trouble with there hobby. hopefully when this trend for free pay services passes, as it will, we will get back to the why the forum was intended,

    And hopefully when the Card share trend passes the parasites will pass with it.
    regards from OZ bassett

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    its always a great pleasure to read postings such as the one above..
    WE ARE ALL SO GREATFUL .
    THANK YOU..AND KEEP IT UP.
    WE ALL LOVE YOU .

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    Quote Originally Posted by bassett View Post
    . also you have no pay service, that is based in Thailand. therefore the pay providers have nothing to loose.
    Thailand has Truevisions on THAICOM5 KU band Mr Basset.

    In Thailand if you are caught with a reciever that uses card sharing you can be sent to prison. Foreigners even not sent to prison might get deported.

    It is illegal run run CS servers in Thailand for Truevisions but I understand ( not sure if this is correct or not ) foreign providers are not covered as they have no broadcasting rights in Thailand. Thailand also has cable TV as well.

    If Evolution works, why so many idiots?


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    Quote Originally Posted by irdeto2engineer View Post
    You will be deported if you dare to do this inside Thailand

 

 

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