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    Default Pay Servers : Should They Be Against The Rdi Rules ?


    In the democratic free market society we live commercial activity is normal and accepted . Why shouldnt we be made aware of offers which are honest decent and worthwhile.
    Hundreds perhaps thousands of us rdi'ers are currently enjoying tv which we would not have and indeed would not be available to us but for a few postings by our esteemed Chinese mamber.
    I personally think we should be allowed to see and know about such offers. That's freedom of speech is it not ?

    Were someone f.x to offer us all Sky Digital for $10 a year must we be prevented from knowing about it ?

    Rather than having to use hidden underground websites known to just a few people in the sat business can we not get this info on RDI ?

    REMEMBER : NOBODY IS OBLIGED TO ACCEPT THE SERVICE OR PAY ANY MONEY. ITS OUR OWN FREE CHOICE

    What do other members think ?

    PS There are no free dinners in this world we live in.....if we want anything worthwhile we have to pay for it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by C-BAND View Post
    In the democratic free market society we live commercial activity is normal and accepted . Why shouldnt we be made aware of offers which are honest decent and worthwhile.
    Hundreds perhaps thousands of us rdi'ers are currently enjoying tv which we would not have and indeed would not be available to us but for a few postings by our esteemed Chinese mamber.
    I personally think we should be allowed to see and know about such offers. That's freedom of speech is it not ?

    Were someone f.x to offer us all Sky Digital for $10 a year must we be prevented from knowing about it ?

    Rather than having to use hidden underground websites known to just a few people in the sat business can we not get this info on RDI ?

    REMEMBER : NOBODY IS OBLIGED TO ACCEPT THE SERVICE OR PAY ANY MONEY. ITS OUR OWN FREE CHOICE

    What do other members think ?

    PS There are no free dinners in this world we live in.....if we want anything worthwhile we have to pay for it.
    thank you I was thinking of asking the same no body is forcing anyone to pay you have pay you dont have let the others to do it is you who decide or is it wrong?

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    Pay servers are not against the rules... just posting about them and offering the pay services on RDI is not what RDI is about.

    According to some major sellers who ran so called bullet proof visionet angel box and dm servers, and who were going to be around for a long long long time they dont run any servers anymore leaving many people who bought their products up shit creek without a paddle.

    The main pay servers are run by professionals who probably don't even post about them. Some people just consult on servers and don't run any themselves.

    There are many server providers some very good and some are adeqaute but with a lot of downtime but there are many that just dissapear after people pay for access.

    At least if people are paying for a service they can expect to have some website and online support.

    There are a lot of South Africans living in the USA who are watching DSTV there. They expect to have online support. The net does make the world a small place.
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    Thanks i2E.... you offer a paid server in Taiwan and it is excellent and top quality with the very best back up.. But it is not mentioned directly only indirectly on your own superb website .
    Had our Chinese friend not been allowed to mention his paid server....fortunately the mods did not delete it...or nor immediately anyway, hundreds if not thousands of us would not be watching bouquets that nobody else offers at a fantastic low cost.
    I feel sorry for those poor souls who spend half their leisure time looking for Dream keys when for less than the cost of a cigarette a day one can almost guarantee uninterupted Dream viweing if one has a dm and broadbank.
    OK ...there are rogues and tricksters everywhere but caveat emptor must always be at the forfront of everyone's mind before paying over money.
    Please allow us to know about these great offers !

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    some people want to get profit without investing. you want to advertise, pay for it, by using banners, etc. not simply stating your intent to sell services in the internet. that is called spamming the boards. and spamming is against the rules.

    now, some boards do authorize these so called bargains and great offers. but they have to be announced by the board admins themselves, not just somebody who registers a minute ago so he can post his wares. if the admin posts the bargains, great deals or what nots, then we can at least be assured of a service that is existing and can be trusted.

    hell, anybody can give great offers. how about a flight to the moon?
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    I dont see this thread very much different from the earlier one, unless the rules have changed or we have new ideas?

    http://www.rdi-board.com/showthread.php?t=50705

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    Quote Originally Posted by cogil View Post
    I dont see this thread very much different from the earlier one, unless the rules have changed or we have new ideas?

    http://www.rdi-board.com/showthread.php?t=50705
    Correct Cogil but there is something called 'law reform'.

    For forty years, William Wilberforce toiled ceaselessly to have the slave trade abolished. He brought the sibject up time and time again in parliament only to be rebuffed on each ocassion until people finally saw the light and the merits of his case, and the slave trade was abolished. Ditto homosexuality (buggery) which was once a capital offence ( and still is in a few African and Muslim countries) and most importantly the death penalty now abolished in most countries of the world. In the UK that took several hundred years of campaigning and the issue was brought up in parliament every year, other than during war time.

    Campaigning for one's rights and not just accepting defeat is the hallmark of our society and democracy. For Cogil to say (most politely of course) ..Sorry, mate but the idea has already been brought up discussed and rejected , just forget it..is a negation of free speech and one's basic humam rights.

    My campaign is simple ...that RDI members should have the right to be informed about the availability and opportunity of satellite viewing opportunities and that members be given the choice to accept or reject those offers. In any case scams will be quickly exposed by others if the offers made are fraufulent. I rest my case .

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    I read your reasoning with quite amusement, you talk as if card share, servers, and other associated activities where quite normal and indeed legal. Circumvention of an encryption, is not legal, it's a crime.
    You also consider people that quite legally sell subscription, the same as the person who sets up a card share server, and sells systems as if it was the norm.
    What you completely fail to understand, is that if Thailand did have a legal pay service, and had a broadcast centre, offering a pay system, your card sharing little rorts would be shut down over night. heavy fines would be imposed.

    This is the system in Australia, Some years ago, someone started a large CS server, The trouble was it simply got too big, the pay provider clamped down, they where hailed into court, and fines of one Millon dollars where imposed, with accosted costs of another one Millon dollars awarded. They then tracked down the people that where using this service, and many people where ether prosecuted or had there receivers , computers and other associated hardware confiscated. One bloke in Newcastle NSW, calling himself "Lord Data" ran a small web site, for downloading software for CS. he was promptly put out of business, he faced a heavy fine, and lost his home in the process.
    Sure there is a very small amount of CS in Australia, but it's mostly just between friends. The penalties are simply to high and the risks are even higher.
    We also simply don't have access to the satellites you enjoy, therefore we can't share those services even if we wanted to.
    But when you have a pay provider, in your country the options are decreased greatly, for what you can or can't do,

    Why do you think RDI will not allow Keys or encryption details for Rumanian services, to be posted on here, The answer is quite simply, Should they post encryption details the pay providers would clamp down on them and the site would be promptly shut down, And that would be the least of the owners worries.
    The Murdock's of this world are very powerful people, and they don't like people stealing there products. Or making money from there hard work, This is why they spend vast sums updating there encryption systems
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    Quote Originally Posted by C-BAND View Post
    Correct Cogil but there is something called 'law reform'.

    For forty years, William Wilberforce toiled ceaselessly to have the slave trade abolished. He brought the sibject up time and time again in parliament only to be rebuffed on each ocassion until people finally saw the light and the merits of his case, and the slave trade was abolished. Ditto homosexuality (buggery) which was once a capital offence ( and still is in a few African and Muslim countries) and most importantly the death penalty now abolished in most countries of the world. In the UK that took several hundred years of campaigning and the issue was brought up in parliament every year, other than during war time.

    Campaigning for one's rights and not just accepting defeat is the hallmark of our society and democracy. For Cogil to say (most politely of course) ..Sorry, mate but the idea has already been brought up discussed and rejected , just forget it..is a negation of free speech and one's basic humam rights.

    My campaign is simple ...that RDI members should have the right to be informed about the availability and opportunity of satellite viewing opportunities and that members be given the choice to accept or reject those offers. In any case scams will be quickly exposed by others if the offers made are fraufulent. I rest my case .
    Good you recall the subject before, and the only cause of my putting it up is as reference, from the recall you too might have new ideas to put forward, and you never know we might be having a new adm, or old change hearts.
    If you referred to this in the first place many new points would come up, and am sure we even have more new members to join up the conversation.
    No rejection M8 carry on.
    Even thought adding a poll could have served your purpose.

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    Quote Originally Posted by C-BAND View Post
    Correct Cogil but there is something called 'law reform'.

    For forty years, William Wilberforce toiled ceaselessly to have the slave trade abolished. He brought the sibject up time and time again in parliament only to be rebuffed on each ocassion until people finally saw the light and the merits of his case, and the slave trade was abolished. Ditto homosexuality (buggery) which was once a capital offence ( and still is in a few African and Muslim countries) and most importantly the death penalty now abolished in most countries of the world. In the UK that took several hundred years of campaigning and the issue was brought up in parliament every year, other than during war time.

    Campaigning for one's rights and not just accepting defeat is the hallmark of our society and democracy. For Cogil to say (most politely of course) ..Sorry, mate but the idea has already been brought up discussed and rejected , just forget it..is a negation of free speech and one's basic humam rights.

    My campaign is simple ...that RDI members should have the right to be informed about the availability and opportunity of satellite viewing opportunities and that members be given the choice to accept or reject those offers. In any case scams will be quickly exposed by others if the offers made are fraufulent. I rest my case .
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    Ah...the question of copyright is now brought up . Very important point but we have total assurance by our esteemed member from China that like in Cambodia ( where c/s is intitutionalised by Co's such as Pnomh Penh Cable and Cambodia Cable with thousands of subscribers even in the major hotels when I was last there ) there is as of this moment no law in China making c/s illegal. If he's right then the whole argument re illegality falls by the wayside....at least in the case of those offering c/s in the Peoples' Republic of China

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    Would be a very useful thread, especially with a service rating.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mellow View Post
    Would be a very useful thread, especially with a service rating.

    Yeah... lol Maybe NOT
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    Quote Originally Posted by mellow View Post
    Would be a very useful thread, especially with a service rating.
    Then who will buy banners in RDI? Satellite kit shop owners will ask another thread for them and so on.

 

 

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