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    Default Bev Down!

    Ce s-a intimplat? S-e pare ca s-a bagat noul rev. asa cum zuzel a zis.Sa speram ca nu dureaza prea mult pt. fix. (dar nu arata bine!).

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    E chiar noul rev, cheile sint bune, no fix yet.

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    c/p from another site ( o posibila explicatie). Daca e asa chestia e urata...


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    Guys we have a wide scale problem with this update. you'll see once they activated it. this update turns on dynamic code like the old Dave USW63 did.

    Basically BV is going to send 1024bit command07s that have the keyselect and provider ID morphed so loggers don't catch it right away. The code at 60DB demorphs this to the proper bytes.

    But there is going to be dynamic code inside the command07 that gets decrypted and stored at 0100. this cod MUST GET EXECUTED. in order for it to come up with a good checksum/seed and then it passes on to SHA-1. All map calls are riddled on this new update except for sha-1.

    Now for the fun part: the decryption of the dynamic code takes place using a 2 new IDEA Keys stored in dataspace. so instead of having 2 ideas keys, we are gonna have 4 now.
    2 06 and 46 keys like before, and 2 NEW 07 46 and 0706 keys used to decrypt the dynamic code inside the command07.

    Here is the bad news: this key will likely be passed to the cam using EMM-S on a subbed cam like the NFL keys were last year. that means that only paying sub bins will receive the new keyrolls for the 07xx keys. This isn't good as a public community.

    The second part is the dynamic code buffer at 0100. they could sneak anything there. they could sneak in OTP checks for marks and stuff like Dave did for the BSH.
    The OTP mark on BS h was used to get the control words, and you froze up if you used a BS H card. i expect b*v/d*sh to do the same with 3060/61.

    Also in the 0100 buffer most likely is going to be new map calls for data manipulation of the seed required to fix up the control words. And they can xor against anything in eeprom. also they can xor against a known byte for a blocker, and loop the cam using the dynamic code.

    You cant block the dynamic code, or you wont get video, you have to let it run. this is going to mean more looped cams like Dave.

    This is not looking good folks. not at all. one last thing: they check 3054 for a proper provider mark. if not present, or invalid you get no video. So you'll have to mod the codespace for this little issue, but then again, they can send dynamic code down to "hash" or check for this mod, and if you modded it, you get no video because you don't get the right keys.

    so here comes BACK the days of cloakers. and down every week with freezing/005 shit.

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    later...

    Its not that I'm trying to scare you, actually I'm not trying to scare you. I'm only stating what me and the other coders are discussing/seeing.

    More is still yet to be known. but as it unfolds, its going more and more like Dave's old tactics every day.

    Meaning you'll have to have a valid subbed bin to get TV. like Dave.
    you'll have to have cloakers. like dave.
    Blockers will no longer have any meaning anymore. like Dave.

    FTA is gonna be dead unless they emulate full SFR/Map and all registers/rom calls. because the dynamic code could change to anything at any point in time. its gonna be a up down up down event on FTA to say the least.

    The only thing thats gonna stand a chance outside of plastic is the armulator. armulator is full blown emulation except for maps/SFRs. It emulates all opcodes, and emulates eeprom/rom and all of its addresses. It runs ST19 code as if it were native. so if you emulate the SFRs properly, and know enough about map, arm has a good chance to stand up, as you can run an arm blocker-less and set OTP however you like so the dynamic code don't bark at you.

    As far as atmegas, and other boards, they ain't gonna stand a good chance at all, because the Atmega and the enigma/etc etc are partial [COLOR=blue! important][FONT=verdana, geneva, lucida, 'lucida grande', arial, helvetica, sans-serif][COLOR=blue! important][FONT=verdana, geneva, lucida, 'lucida grande', arial, helvetica, sans-serif]emulators[/FONT][/FONT][/COLOR][/COLOR]. They only emulate and handle commands. they don't run ST19 code native. at least not to my knowledge. so thats gonna make things really difficult for the Atmega until an ST19 core native emulator is coded.

    And i also forgot, CEMU and the like will stand a chance, because they all use address/native code emulation like the armulator.
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    Nici skystar nici dream,autoroluiesc in draci dar noapte.

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    Hehe, ala acolo face reclama la armulator. Iarasi jocuri de culise, ca sa aruncam banii pe fel de fel de "solutii" care poate vor merge.
    Full MAP - asta exista. S-a facut de pe vremea cind primele MAP-romuri au aparut in stream si a venit Viewsat cu solutia.
    Depinde cit vrea coderul care stie MAP-ul. Cand cad iarasi la pace, sa vezi solutiile venind. Insa pentru unele receivere "mici pe piata" va fi o asteptare lunga.

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    Se pare ca o solutie temporara a si fost gasita, cel putin pentru Dreambox si Dreambox-like boxes.
    Partea proasta e ca EEP08_102.bin trebuie sa fie clona unui card care sa fie sub activ, deci trebuie sa fie tinut privat sau sa circule in cercuri de incredere.
    Sunt convins totusi ca o sa apara si solutii publice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by diva_ta View Post
    Se pare ca o solutie temporara a si fost gasita, cel putin pentru Dreambox si Dreambox-like boxes.
    Partea proasta e ca EEP08_102.bin trebuie sa fie clona unui card care sa fie sub activ, deci trebuie sa fie tinut privat sau sa circule in cercuri de incredere.
    Sunt convins totusi ca o sa apara si solutii publice.
    Bine ai venit dragule/drago ca iarasi avem confuzie ce gen esti. Hehe. La fel ca Blacklist cu cheile lui!

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    Quote Originally Posted by zuzel View Post
    Bine ai venit dragule/drago ca iarasi avem confuzie ce gen esti. Hehe. La fel ca Blacklist cu cheile lui!
    Multumesc de primire! Sper sa refacem aici ceea ce am pierdut prin alte parti.

    Ziceam de solutie publica. A aparut si asta: ST19XL.

    "New ST19 confirmed working on BEV all channels and XXX.
    Here is the link for the file.
    hxxp://rapidshare.com/files/52298626/st19xl-2.5.21.zip"


    Stiu, asta e un emu care ruleaza pe PC si suntem inca departe de solutia simpla si usoara la indemana fiecaruia cu care ne obisnuisem, dar e un pas inainte si arata ca se poate.

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    Unhappy Bev Down!

    pfffffff......nu dureaza mult si dick va face la fel . Curios sunt cat va dura >sper sa fie cat mai "multa" asteptarea. Dar poate vine din europa solutia...aici se foloseste revizia respectiva ..pe Digi..daca nu ma insel! Altceva e pacat ca a picat ..si anume CCC -ul
    You cant catch more flies with honey than you can do with shit !

 

 

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