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    cine are 2800 si a facut autorol puteti pune keile de gc aici
    mersi

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    Quote Originally Posted by cartof_2 View Post
    cine are 2800 si a facut autorol puteti pune keile de gc aici
    mersi
    Cartof, nu merge, sint mascate, toate sint perechi de 00.

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    Quote Originally Posted by annna View Post
    Cartof, nu merge, sint mascate, toate sint perechi de 00.
    ok mascat dar a facut autorol azi?
    ca le putem scoate cu jtag din bin

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    da, rsc se vad, n-am stiut ca s-au schimbat cheile. am 2800 dar n-am nici o idee de jtag.

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    azi la 14.45 EST, sa vedem cand apar si cheile. Cine are Pansat a facut cumva autoroll?

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    Quote Originally Posted by annna View Post
    da, rsc se vad, n-am stiut ca s-au schimbat cheile. am 2800 dar n-am nici o idee de jtag.
    Asa ai zis si despre euronews si mai apoi ti-a disparut. Eu nu cred ca binurile de pansat au autoroll pentru gc inca.

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    Quote Originally Posted by annna View Post
    da, rsc se vad, n-am stiut ca s-au schimbat cheile. am 2800 dar n-am nici o idee de jtag.
    Incearca sa pui un bin mai vechi ,poate se vad cheile

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    Quote Originally Posted by zuzel View Post
    Asa ai zis si despre euronews si mai apoi ti-a disparut. Eu nu cred ca binurile de pansat au autoroll pentru gc inca.
    zuzel, n-am nici un interes sa vorbesc prostii. acum la 4.47 pm est, rsc se vad. euronews afiseaza bad or scrambled channel ca si cum e alt sistem de codare, nu incearca sa gaseasca cheile. am un 2800 cu bin 420.
    am citit pe forumul lui blacklist ca modelele de pansat peste 2800 fac ar. dar pachetul de chei este mascat iar binul nu permite editarea cimpurilor lui c101(introducerea de chei manual nu mai e posibila) nu le fac reclama, repet, n-am nici un interes, vreau doar sa dau un update la ce merge din punctul meu de vedere.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alb3rto View Post
    Incearca sa pui un bin mai vechi ,poate se vad cheile
    e o gluma?

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    Quote Originally Posted by annna View Post
    e o gluma?
    Din moment ce sia facut autorolul si vezi RSC-urile chiar daca instalezi un program mai vechi (419) cheile ramin acolo(banuiesc) si poti sa vezi in continuare RSC.Intrebarea mea era daca nu cumva apar cheile in menu la C101.
    Nu costa nimic sa incerci

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    Quote Originally Posted by alb3rto View Post
    Din moment ce sia facut autorolul si vezi RSC-urile chiar daca instalezi un program mai vechi (419) cheile ramin acolo(banuiesc) si poti sa vezi in continuare RSC.Intrebarea mea era daca nu cumva apar cheile in menu la C101.
    Nu costa nimic sa incerci
    nu ramin cheile, 2800 are un sistem prost de update la bin: tot ce e in memorie se sterge, inclusiv listele de canale. face un fel de factory default.

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    Quote Originally Posted by annna View Post
    zuzel, n-am nici un interes sa vorbesc prostii. acum la 4.47 pm est, rsc se vad. euronews afiseaza bad or scrambled channel ca si cum e alt sistem de codare, nu incearca sa gaseasca cheile. am un 2800 cu bin 420.
    am citit pe forumul lui blacklist ca modelele de pansat peste 2800 fac ar. dar pachetul de chei este mascat iar binul nu permite editarea cimpurilor lui c101(introducerea de chei manual nu mai e posibila) nu le fac reclama, repet, n-am nici un interes, vreau doar sa dau un update la ce merge din punctul meu de vedere.
    am fost sceptic, asta e! Acum m-am convins ba mai mult, cititi mai departe care e smecheria:

    Q: Why can't I input the GC keys manually?

    A: Because thats how the new bins are designed. The keys are hidden.

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    Q: Why are the keys hidden?

    A: Because for Pansat's protection against their discovery. Only team Blacklist found the GC autoroll algorithm, so they want to protect it.
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    Q: Great, team BL found the autoroll algorithm, but my 2700A is not rolling keys. Whats going on?

    A: Supposedly the 2700A and older pansat models DO NOT HAVE a working autoroll fix, hence, the keys will not roll unless you have a pansat 2800 or newer model.
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    Q: Um, okay. So why doesn't the 2700A have a GC autoroll fix, i just bought it (or i've had it only for a year!)

    A: The best answer as far as i know is that the 2700A and older models have clones out there. Once there are clones, exclusive pansat software will be used on them and for business reasons pansat doesn't like that!
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    Q: Ok, so screw autoroll. I'll input the keys myself. But how can I do that on this newest bin

    A: You can't, switch back to bin 205 where you can input them manually. You will have to sacrifice DN/BEV autoroll functionality.
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    Q: Will there be keys put out for GC?

    A: Hopefully they will be leaked.

    There it is, this is the situation as far as we know.

    F. U. C. K. degeaba ma codeam eu pe linga pansatul 2700 al vecinului!

    Asteptam sau Cardsharing !




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    F. U. C. K. degeaba ma codeam eu pe linga pansatul 2700 al vecinului!

    Asteptam sau Cardsharing !



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    Uita ce am gasit pe un alt site.Nu stiu daca vorbeste prostii sau nu dar poate merita incercat

    C/P

    You guys above do not know how to operate your 2700 boxes properly or do not understand the basics.

    First of all:
    1. 2700 bins have a GC key embeded in it, and by this same time putting keys for GC by remote was disabled.
    2.If u put or keep autoroll on for GC, u gonna have picture at no more than 3 min at the best or not at all.
    About every 3 min receiver compare keys in the GC slot with the keys in the stream, and if there is a diffrence, than u loose the picture, then autoroll kicks in and start looking for keys.
    And because autoroll for GC doesn't pick right keys(distorted intentionally by BL-takes wrong keys), then embeded keys in the bin are replaced by autoroll function with garbage keys and u not gonna have picture on the GC.

    Solution(s)

    1) if u not have picture on GC and autoroll for GC is on and u put the bin on Nagra 2 scrambled channels on GC - it means your embeded GC keys are replaced by no good bogus key.
    ---------what to do ---------
    ===turn autoroll for GC to OFF, hit default key which brings back all keys back to where they were when u put new bin in the receiver=====
    === this bring u GC picture on right away, but u loose the present keys for DN and Bev, so if u put on Dish 200(CNN) should give u present DN keys at no time and weather channel on BEV should give u Bev key in less the 3 min.
    If u do not get keys for bev, then try to change channels or reset the receiver by back panel switch for 15 sec and everything suppose to fly.

    2) if u put the new 208 bin in the receiver and didn't expose the receiver bin to the GC stream (which means u didn't put on any GC channel), then it means that your embeded GC keys are intact.
    -------what to do--------
    ====turn autoroll for GC to OFF and u gonna have picture on all Nagra2 GC channels.


    I have 2500 converted to 2700, 2700 and clones of 2700, FLU and all have picture on GC

    Hope this long explanations clear things up.

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    Interesant, mersi de post alb3rto.
    Merita incercat. Hobby=fun!

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    am incercat mai devreme sa te intreb alberto knd a fost postat postul acela,dar site-ul a avut ceva probleme,probabil e un post mai vechi inainte sa schimbe cheia 01, polonezi merg dar in rest nimic,ceea ce e in post se traducea simplu pt gc de knd a aparut 208: set default key.Si totusi pe multe situri scrie ca sa schimbat cheia 01,de unde stiu ei asta? ar insemna ca cineva are cheile dar ii e frica sa le arunce pe net.
    Last edited by cerna; 26th August 2007 at 22:52.

 

 

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