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    Default Long wire antenae help please


    Hi ,i am after some info on the long wire antenae i have just had a long wire balun hf kit & have a few questions?.
    1.does it have to be straight?
    2.can it be shaped?.
    3.is it directional or can you have it in a loop?
    4.do you have to use an a t u with it?.
    ialso have a moonraker superscan stick 11 wideband but will use the long wire for better quality signal on 0-30 hf.
    i shall use my yupiteru mvt 7100 reciever to pick up the signals i am interested in hf marine/air or anything interesting

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    yeps, it has to be straight, though not necessarily LEVEL since you can install it an at angle. from my understanding of long wire antennas, they are directional (as most VHF/UHF/HF antennae, save for some omni-directionals), so you cannot shape it, just keep it straight. there is no better HF receptor antenna than the long wires with baluns, so stick with it for better clarity and good reception.
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    Default Re: Long wire antenae help please

    Quote Originally Posted by wonkydonky
    Hi ,i am after some info on the long wire antenae i have just had a long wire balun hf kit & have a few questions?.
    1.does it have to be straight?
    2.can it be shaped?.
    3.is it directional or can you have it in a loop?
    4.do you have to use an a t u with it?.
    ialso have a moonraker superscan stick 11 wideband but will use the long wire for better quality signal on 0-30 hf.
    i shall use my yupiteru mvt 7100 reciever to pick up the signals i am interested in hf marine/air or anything interesting

    ive been playing with long wire antenas for over 30 years
    NO it dont have to be straight
    horizontal straight long wire antenas are directional unless you have it vertical
    YES it can be shapped
    long wire antenas work best in an inverted v shape
    and yes the do work better with an atu in line
    ABA

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    Many thanks my good friends boknoy_ph & ABA for the info about the long wire ants i shall try at easter when i go to wales for the summer
    cheers my friends the wonkydonky

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    now there's an idea, we have never experimented with a shaped longwire before, we usually just hang it along and it goes fine. what then would be an interesting shape for it? my experience with radios is not that long or extensive as ABA's so i am willing to learn some more on this field too. currently using vhf transmitters back in philippines though, on full quad-loop yagi 22 elements array.
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    Default shaped long wire antenna

    Hi my friend,i think i shall do some experiments on this theme i will keep you informed if you want
    cheers the wonkydonky

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    Quote Originally Posted by boknoy_ph
    now there's an idea, we have never experimented with a shaped longwire before, we usually just hang it along and it goes fine. what then would be an interesting shape for it? my experience with radios is not that long or extensive as ABA's so i am willing to learn some more on this field too. currently using vhf transmitters back in philippines though, on full quad-loop yagi 22 elements array.
    Oximoron = Quad Yagi.
    A quad is a quad and a yagi is a yagi.
    The mix of both could be deemed by some as quagi but you do not see many of these about these days. Quad refectors, diapole or gamma matched driven element, yagi directors.

    Inverted "V's" have been around for over 90 years and work well indeed.

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    This site is useful!
    http://www.hamuniverse.com/antennas.html
    And in my belief, an antenna tuner only makes the swr appear better!
    It is certainly preferable to have the dipole the correct length for the frequency in use.
    Of course that aint gonna help you if you need a dipole for the whole HF band...thats where a tuner is needed
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    @kuband,

    how then do you call a square shaped yagi? maybe i'll call it a cubical (not "quad loop") yagi then. all in that shape including the driven, directors and the reflectors. maybe the one who made our antenna was one hiccup from the freak of nature. and it serves us well though, however "oxymoronic" the design may be, gets an almost flat SWR rating on our assigned transmission freqs. rectify my terms then if im mistaken, lol. my bro-in-law uses also another yagi, this one shaped circle (circular?)and does all kinds of interferrence on the neighboring antennae.

    just for ideas, the circular looks like this:


    and the cubical looks like this:
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    Maybe a QUAGI is somewhat similar as what our neighbor did when he assembled a motorcycle with mixed parts from different brands (Yamaha, Kawasaki, Honda, and Suzuki). Now he calls his motorcycle YAKAHONSU

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    Default long wire antennae


    Thanks once again for all the tips/suggestions boknoy_ph,ommis,kuband
    &Loloy,its not as easy as i thought it would be i think.
    cheers my friends the wonkydonky

 

 

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