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    Default Truevisions now on nds


    Truevisions satellite is now using NDS as well as Irdeto2

    So it's only a matter of time before ...... is switched off.
    If Evolution works, why so many idiots?


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    Quote Originally Posted by irdeto2engineer View Post
    Truevisions satellite is now using NDS as well as Irdeto2

    So it's only a matter of time before ...... is switched off.
    very loooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooong Time needs to switch off
    first only Gold and Platinum Packete also this needs time
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    Default ??

    how long? after this still can CS or not?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ndskim View Post
    how long? after this still can CS or not?
    Nobody can say now. If they use NDS same as Foxtel in Australia then.... no
    If Evolution works, why so many idiots?


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    Default re

    You are all confused - too many posters on forums posting rubbish

    TrueVision plans are to dual crypt

    This means truevision will offer 2 platforms NDS and Ir#to
    due to large customers on old system they must remain on ir#do

    After the NDS testing is complete and the production of NDS receivers and smartcards NEW subscribers will have the offer of the new NDS platform with interactive Tv .

    OLD ir#to customers will get offered the new exchange at a FEE $$
    If they refuse the NEW platform they will stay on the OLD PLATFORM Ir#dto .

    i really dont know what all the fuss is about anyway NDS is hacked nothing will change
    people will still get tv one way or another if its CS Sharing or pirate cards there is always a way to watch PPV service free

    So relax guys and girls nothing will change
    after all they are only testing there options - lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by EDIRECT View Post
    You are all confused - too many posters on forums posting rubbish

    TrueVision plans are to dual crypt

    This means truevision will offer 2 platforms NDS and Ir#to
    due to large customers on old system they must remain on ir#do

    After the NDS testing is complete and the production of NDS receivers and smartcards NEW subscribers will have the offer of the new NDS platform with interactive Tv .

    OLD ir#to customers will get offered the new exchange at a FEE $$
    If they refuse the NEW platform they will stay on the OLD PLATFORM Ir#dto .

    i really dont know what all the fuss is about anyway NDS is hacked nothing will change
    people will still get tv one way or another if its CS Sharing or pirate cards there is always a way to watch PPV service free

    So relax guys and girls nothing will change
    after all they are only testing there options - lol
    Truevision its a Thai Company so its only 100% its already down
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    More likely Irdt0 will be FreeTV and ND5 will have all the paid and HD content.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xratedchannel View Post
    More likely Irdt0 will be FreeTV and ND5 will have all the paid and HD content.
    the correct answer has already been posted

    Anyways when the NDS is ready just buy the new IS-SAT Receiver it will open - lol
    You can also CS with the I-SAT

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    sooner or later i must accept that my truexxx tv's goes dark..its weird to have 2 encryption while one is for free one!
    everyday is my holiday

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    EDirect is correct when he says that NDS is vulnerable to C/S. I don't know about Foxtel, but Sky in the UK is available on many pay servers. The hackers long ago got around the problem of the marriage of receiver to card.

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    Quote Originally Posted by citizen33 View Post
    EDirect is correct when he says that NDS is vulnerable to C/S. I don't know about Foxtel, but Sky in the UK is available on many pay servers. The hackers long ago got around the problem of the marriage of receiver to card.
    Foxtel just made a change on their NDS system several weeks ago so although the cards will work in Foxtel STBs, no other decoders can read them.

    Everybody knows SKY UK can be on CS as well as some other NDS services... but when the providers make a change it may take several months before a solution is found.

    Not every encryption system has been compromised yet.
    If Evolution works, why so many idiots?


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    Here we go again, E-Direct running his mouth about something he has no understanding off.

    ID2 is quite correct, while NDS might be compromised it's never been hacked, it still relies on an official card, somewhere in the equation for CS to be accomplished successfully. As for 'cards' running in non-standard // provider supplied receivers. While some might except a subscriber card, many won't. And in some cases , subscriber cards have been rendered useless, once there removed and attempted to be used in other then a provider receiver

    On the question of duel encryptions, No pay provider anywhere owns the receivers supplied to customers, There simply leased from the manufacturer. So a receiver swap over to a new encryption, is simply a matter of swapping old for new. There have been cases where a "over-air" download has made it possible to re'write the CAM to the new encryption, there'by preventing the need for a receiver re'call.

    However having said that, And I have asked this question before from E-direct
    without a reply. [ no surprises there] Just perhaps he can supply details of an NDS service being possible without the need for a subscriber card being used somewhere or details of a working NDS service without the use of a "clone" card.
    Needless to say an answer will be a long time coming.
    regards from OZ bassett

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    Quote Originally Posted by bassett View Post
    Here we go again, E-Direct running his mouth about something he has no understanding off.

    ID2 is quite correct, while NDS might be compromised it's never been hacked, it still relies on an official card, somewhere in the equation for CS to be accomplished successfully. As for 'cards' running in non-standard // provider supplied receivers. While some might except a subscriber card, many won't. And in some cases , subscriber cards have been rendered useless, once there removed and attempted to be used in other then a provider receiver

    On the question of duel encryptions, No pay provider anywhere owns the receivers supplied to customers, There simply leased from the manufacturer. So a receiver swap over to a new encryption, is simply a matter of swapping old for new. There have been cases where a "over-air" download has made it possible to re'write the CAM to the new encryption, there'by preventing the need for a receiver re'call.

    However having said that, And I have asked this question before from E-direct
    without a reply. [ no surprises there] Just perhaps he can supply details of an NDS service being possible without the need for a subscriber card being used somewhere or details of a working NDS service without the use of a "clone" card.
    Needless to say an answer will be a long time coming.
    I dont know im not a pirate and dont have the knowledge to hack anything
    I only post and what i see on the internet and have seen working solutions with my own eye's not everything is posted on the NET ? NDS is not secure only a fool would think that MR Murdoch might have power but his ball's are getting squeezed at the moment
    Seem to be in the news alot at moment - lol

    PS the answer has been posted many time mayne you missed it !

    As i said im not a pirate

    I only sell official products and viewing cards - i totally disagree with piracy

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    ps bassett

    Nice to see your still around - WE HAVE MISSED YOU BADLY !

    Glad to see your ok

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    Quote Originally Posted by EDIRECT View Post
    I dont know im not a pirate and dont have the knowledge to hack anything
    IF that is the case, Why then do you make total uninformed comments, and
    make uninformed statements about something you claim to have no knowledge off.

    A fact you might like to consider, Nothing in pay TV encryption has ever been hacked. Its simply been compromised. When you can obtain an encrypted TV service total independent of a subscription card, or the details on it, or without using a supplied [locked] subscriber satellite receiver, regardless of the encryption used. Then and only then can you consider it "HACKED" not before

    Quote Originally Posted by EDIRECT View Post
    Anyways when the NDS is ready just buy the new IS-SAT Receiver it will open
    You can also CS with the I-SAT
    It would seem your not only a shonky little lier but also a hypocrite
    regards from OZ bassett

 

 

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