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    Default viva si viva plus pe digital

    Intra numai seara de la ora 19 pana la ora 1 noapte.Am o antena de 1,8 fibra cu un lnb quad invacom 0,3 si un receptor strong 4356pvr. Cu ce antena se poate receptiona tot timpul bine aceste programe? Si unde pot gasi antene mai mari din aluminiu?
    Antena 1,8m/Montura polara/Lnb Invacom quad 0,3db/Actuator 12"/Pozitioner diseq Moteck/DB 7020s/DigiTv

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    merg f bine in analogic. in digital e mai greu cu vivele
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    Viva Plus perge ok in analogic peste tot in tara, dar Viva nu intra decat in vestul tarii.
    Incearca sa reglezi mai bine antena, ori componentele ei sa obtii maximum de semnal.
    Vivele sunt cam printre putinele in digital care intra ok in Ro. (cel putin in sud) din programele de pa Astra...adica au semnalul maxim pe digital.
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    Viva analogic:



    Viva Plus analogic:


    Vivele digital:
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    Offset 1.50m Fe, Triax TDS 1.10m, Visiosat BIG-BISAT, TechniSat SATMAN 85cm, Gibertini OP100L, etc
    Offset 35.cm (Camping), Triax BSKYB (72x58 cm), etc
    DM 800 HD V2, DM 500 V2, DM 800 HD, Amiko X-Finder, GigaBlue 800 HD, Sab Sky 4800 Mini Hd,
    Abo: Focussat, Dolce, HD+, TivuSat, Freesat, etc.
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    bag pixu, tre sa iau un analogic
    ca pe digital merge chiar greu, Locatia Toplita
    1.6 Offset Al, Invacom 0.3dB, VBOX 2 Moteck, DVB: Pinnacle PCTV-Sat, act. 18'' , 75°E <> 30°W , DM500s / Focus KSF100 / 2x DigiTV 1160NA / 1x Humax Digi-plus / 0.3dB Gold+0.8m Offset / BOOM TV

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    Quote Originally Posted by the the

    Vivele digital:
    Aceasta imagine nu reflecta realitatea...
    In locatia mea(cea din semnatura, evident in afara acoperirii din imagine), cu ofsetul de 1,6 am semnal stabil indiferent de perioada zilei pe SS2
    Viva 12670 V 22000 semnal 69-71%
    Viva Plus 12552 V 22000 semnal 66-67%

    de mentionat ca pe cele 2 programe aveam semnal si cu ofsetul de 0,9 acum vreo 2 ani..evident la limita!
    Ofset-uri 1,6Al/1.6Fe/1,4Fe, 2&HH , SkyStar2;
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    @ yang
    Sunt de acord cu tine...ai perfecta dreptate, in Buc. cu offset de 0.9 intra cam 45-60% ambele vive in digital (daca antena este reglata perfect).
    Ideea este ca acest Astra 1 G nu are toate TP-urile cu acoperire egala...de exemplu, hai sa luam TP-ul Viacomului de pe 1G...si ce observam in comparatie cu cele 2 TP-uri in care sunt si Vivele?
    ca semnalul este cu mult mai mic fata de acestea..deci, la Astra 1G desi ni se da o singura harta, de fapt sunt mai multe harti carora le corespund mai multe TP-uri...asa ca nimic nu este sigur.
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    Offset 1.50m Fe, Triax TDS 1.10m, Visiosat BIG-BISAT, TechniSat SATMAN 85cm, Gibertini OP100L, etc
    Offset 35.cm (Camping), Triax BSKYB (72x58 cm), etc
    DM 800 HD V2, DM 500 V2, DM 800 HD, Amiko X-Finder, GigaBlue 800 HD, Sab Sky 4800 Mini Hd,
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    @the the

    cand esti in arafa sau la limita ariei de acoperire pot aparea diferite gauri de semnal, de ex la sibiu viva plus pe offset de 1,2 merge doar cateva ore pe zi, iar viva deloc.
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    Sunt de acord cu tine in ceea ce priveste limita de receptie la distante mari, dar in acest caz ma indoiesc ca Sibiul este in aceasta limita. Iti spun asta pentru ca la distanta de receptie la limita a 44 dBW de peste 100km in Buc. ele intra non-stop. si inca o chestiune...de exemplu pe HotBird toate Tp-urile mai putin cele de pe Super au o acoperire constanta (adica nu sunt variatii de semnal).
    Problema este cel mai mult pe Astra si mai ales pe 1G - adica ei descriu o harta pentru un satelit ca fiind constanta pentru toate tp-urile de pe acel satelit, iar in realitate puterea tp-urilor nu este egala chiar daca esti in raza de acoperire.
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    Offset 1.50m Fe, Triax TDS 1.10m, Visiosat BIG-BISAT, TechniSat SATMAN 85cm, Gibertini OP100L, etc
    Offset 35.cm (Camping), Triax BSKYB (72x58 cm), etc
    DM 800 HD V2, DM 500 V2, DM 800 HD, Amiko X-Finder, GigaBlue 800 HD, Sab Sky 4800 Mini Hd,
    Abo: Focussat, Dolce, HD+, TivuSat, Freesat, etc.
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    Sibiul e oarecum la limita acoperirii si sunt probleme in receptie iar Bucurestiul si Buzaul sunt clar in afara acoperirii si totusi se receptioneaza perfect indiferent de perioada zilei....O intrebare mai stupida..pot exista "gauri" in acoperire?...in interiorul ariei de acoperire ma refer..
    Ofset-uri 1,6Al/1.6Fe/1,4Fe, 2&HH , SkyStar2;
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    Da,posibil sa fie vorba de gauri de semnal... Am fost la cineva in Bacau si cu o antena de 2,2 fibra si un Invacom de 0,3db avea la ora 13 nivel de semnal 56% pe VIVE si mergeau si TPS-urile din fascicolul super de pe Hotbird,care eu le vad la fel doar noaptea.Deci,banuiesc ca daca avea o antena de 1,8 ca a mea nu avea semnal pb decat 25-30% pe VIVE cum am eu la acea ora a zilei,si deci nu i-ar fi intrat.Cred ca am sa-mi iau o antena de 2,2 din aluminiu ca sa fiu sigur de receptiile astea cacacioase de pe sateliti. Asta e singura solutie...
    Antena 1,8m/Montura polara/Lnb Invacom quad 0,3db/Actuator 12"/Pozitioner diseq Moteck/DB 7020s/DigiTv

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    In Bucuresti intra bine. In Valcea cu 1.6m decat seara pe la 7 incep sa mearga. In achimb in analogic se vede Viva aproape perfect iar viva+ impecabil. Aceeasi problema e si cu Viasat-ul nordic. Nu intra in VL cu 1.6 nici mort. Doar macroblocuri dimineata de la 10-10.30.

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    Viva analogic bine in afara de vestu' extrem al tarii? ma indoiesc poate cu antena de minim 1.8m.
    Draga @ valipopovici
    Ce inseamna expresia " receptiile astea cacacioase de pe sateliti"?
    Te referi la sateliti in general ori la Astra in sepcial?
    Haide sa iti explic o treaba:
    Daca nu erau " receptiile astea cacacioase de pe sateliti", nu puteai sa iti deschizi orizontul "creativ" - adica sa vezi ce se mai intampla prin Germania in materie de muzica....sa stii ca netul nu rezolva problema.
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    Offset 1.50m Fe, Triax TDS 1.10m, Visiosat BIG-BISAT, TechniSat SATMAN 85cm, Gibertini OP100L, etc
    Offset 35.cm (Camping), Triax BSKYB (72x58 cm), etc
    DM 800 HD V2, DM 500 V2, DM 800 HD, Amiko X-Finder, GigaBlue 800 HD, Sab Sky 4800 Mini Hd,
    Abo: Focussat, Dolce, HD+, TivuSat, Freesat, etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by the the
    Viva analogic bine in afara de vestu' extrem al tarii? ma indoiesc poate cu antena de minim 1.8m.

    Nu trebuie sa te indoiesti....daca nu si-a schimbat parametrii de receptie de acum vreo 2-3 ani in Buzau receptie perfecta cu ofset de 0,9 indiferent de perioada zilei....
    Ofset-uri 1,6Al/1.6Fe/1,4Fe, 2&HH , SkyStar2;
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    Viva in analog nu si-a schimbat nici un parametru de cand a plecat de pe HotBird in urma cu 5 ani.
    A ramas tot pe Astra 1C ca la inceput pe acelasi TP (11127 V-tp 44) care va fi schimbat in curand cu Astra 1kR.
    Deci, nu cred. Decat daca ai peste 1.8m.
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    Prime focus (Alu) 1.50m, 1.90m
    Offset 1.50m Fe, Triax TDS 1.10m, Visiosat BIG-BISAT, TechniSat SATMAN 85cm, Gibertini OP100L, etc
    Offset 35.cm (Camping), Triax BSKYB (72x58 cm), etc
    DM 800 HD V2, DM 500 V2, DM 800 HD, Amiko X-Finder, GigaBlue 800 HD, Sab Sky 4800 Mini Hd,
    Abo: Focussat, Dolce, HD+, TivuSat, Freesat, etc.
    DVB-T:
    TechniSat MultyMedia TS 1, Televes DAT HD, DIGIALITY OUTDOOR ANTENNA, etc

 

 

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